I am very honest and naive. Not a good combination. (For instance,I could just kick myself for not using an alias when I registered here and the service that offers this forum won't answer me back on how to change my alias.) I am exactly like this in real life. Always giving more information than what people want to know. I hate liars and two faced people. I believe in saying exactly what you mean. I have told the truth even when it got me in trouble. I love getting to chat with everyone and I hope the people that seem caring, really are what they seem.I would love to open up more but I won't now that I have no alias to hide behind. It wouldn't be fair to other family members, especially the ones who are still in the org. and are good people.
Jessica Rabbit
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Are You In The Real World What You Seem To Be Here?
by minimus inin all honesty, are you pretty much like you are at home or in the workplace when you post here?
i wonder whether or not you are the same personality in person as you are here on the internet board.......i'm very much the same only i don't ask people questions in real life.
but my basic personality and wonderful wit is always there.
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My first meeting after becoming an "apostate"
by Winston Smith :>D inwell, i went to my first sunday meeting after realizing the real "truth" about the wts today.. it is interesting sitting there with a liberated mind-set now.. at one point my wife turned to me and asked during the public talk, "whats so funny?".
", i asked her.. "because youre smiling.".
smiling at the kh, a sure sign that your not a jw i guess.. ~.
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Jessica Rabbit
Really Winston, you let her catch you smiling? The last few meetings I attended, everyone looked extremely tired and numb. Thanks for sharing the part about Stephen and the Holy Spirit. Now that you mention that it reminds me of what was said about the cult in Waco a few years ago. The people would be so mentally exhausted that they weren't able to think for themselves. If I had been at your meeting the other day, that scripture about Stephen would have went right over my head. Ever since I started reading other Bible translations, I have been able to comprehend what I read. Is it just me, or is the NWT a jumbled MESS?
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Please read what someone posted on Suicide, and tell me what you think
by LyinEyes inproplog2.. wrote this on another thread, and i would like to hear from others who may not have had a suicide in their own families to reply as well.
do you think that the jw religion has at least some blame or bloodguilt over some of the jw suicides?
i personally know they do, not all cases i am sure, but i know a large amount of them are cult related jw.......... remember we are not talking about just another religion, but a mind controlled cult known as jw's.
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Jessica Rabbit
I am trying to figure out why proplog2 even reads these posts. Obviously he/she doesn't; and never will take the JW beliefs seriously in his/her life. If I had taken everything with a grain of salt growing up and never thought any of it was real, I would post such numb, cold and negative remarks as he/she has. All our lives we were told it isn't just a religion, it is a way of life. Now I, along with most of you are deprogramming most of everything we were ever told to think and feel. And yes, when you are told all your life that every decision you make will either mean eternal life in paradise or death at armageddon, it does give one a sense of hopelessness when they feel they have been kicked out of thier only means to a happy future. Some have gotten into situations, including myself, where prayer and a relationship with God were an impossible dream. When you no longer feel you have God on your side, not to mention the only friends you ever had, death seems to be the only way out of the pain and loneliness.
Traci
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New member
by Winston Smith :>D ini just wanted to say hi to the group here.. been baptized for 15 years now.
my wife has been baptized for a little less than that time period.. been an aux poi., reg pio, ms. wife is a reg pio currently.
now im just a lowly publisher :d. have had many doubts over the years on small matters.
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Jessica Rabbit
As a newbie myself I want to say "welcome". I have learned a lot just in two weeks. I look forward to hearing from you. You mentioned how you are just a lowly publisher. It reminded me of something kind of funny that happened when I was still in the org. I remember hearing about the pioneers in my hall having a pioneer party. Every other month or so the pioneers would get together to encourage each other and reward themselves with a party because they really did sacrifice so much. One day I told a friend I was going to have an "inactive" party! She thought that would be alot more fun. Can you believe they did that kind of thing and were proud of it?
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What Results When JW's Associate ONLY With Fellow JW's?
by minimus ini clearly see that jw's are constantly being told to only associate with fellow believers if at all humanly possible.
there is to be either no association or at the minimum, very little socializing with non-witnesses.
in your opinion, what does this produce?
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Jessica Rabbit
I can tell you from experience that it has definitely had it's impact in my case. Not only was it hard trying to socialize with people once I was DF'd, but I had SO much to learn about people in general. I don't know how to word this right but growing up ONLY around other JWs, I had the impression we were actually cleaner people. I never thought twice about going to their house and eating dinner or whatever. I remember the first time I went over to our neighbors house it just seemed...well,...dirty. Isn't that horrible? Or if I was having a conflict with someone in the hall, the elders had to be involved to resolve it. Out here with the rest of humanity you just tend to business. If someone pisses you off, there is no little hen circle to gossip about it and get it off your chest. If a person has a problem with you in the world they let you know about it right then! I have definitely grown a thicker skin since I left. I used to be so darn sensitive. I am still a friendly person but I don't put up with people's crap anymore if they mess with me.
What has always concerned me is all of the JW kids who take home school. I think that is really sad, because so many parents think they are protecting thier kids from extra worldy influences. I think it does more harm than good. Eventually the kid has to get a job, and I'm not talking about cleaning houses or offices.
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What questions would you ask a LOYAL JW, when/if you get a chance ???
by run dont walk in.
well, my family has started to call me out of the blue, (after years of no contact).. so, get your thinking caps on.. what questions are the best to throw at loyal jw's, to show they are wrong, or at least get them thinking ????
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Jessica Rabbit
Ask them this: Why do you teach that those faithful before Jesus came to earth will be ressurected here on the earth when Hebrews 11:13-16 says (speaking of Abraham,Sara and Noah)
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13) These men of faith I have mentioned died without ever receiveing all that God had promised them; but they saw it all awaiting them on ahead and were glad, for they agreed that this earth was not their real home but that they were just strangers visiting down here. 14) And quite obviously when they talked like that, they were looking forward to their real home in heaven.15)If they had wanted to, they could have gone back to the good things of this world. 16)But they didn't want to. They were living for heaven. And now God is not ashamed to be called thier God, for he has made a heavenly city for them.
I would think this would definitely put a damper on the "144,000 only" theory. By the way, ask them where the great crowd are in Rev. 19:1?
"After this I heard the shouting of a vast crowd IN HEAVEN."
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Do you have a sense of humor?
by Maverick inin the movie 'my blue heaven' steve martin's charactor claims, "everyone thinks they have a sense of humor, even when they don't!
" do you laugh easily and often?
i am always looking for new material and have about 150 jokes at my disposal.
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Jessica Rabbit
I HAVE to laugh often. Or should I say, I LOVE to laugh. It's the best medicine there is. Especially when you are in a situation you have no control of. One day my husband and I went to the store after work in the car we were both sharing because he lost his truck. The A/C was broke and it was about 100 degrees in the shade. We walk out with the groceries, and when he goes to open the car door,......the handle breaks! The passenger door was sticking real bad and would only open when it wanted to. He looked at me and all I could do was look up at the sky and say, " YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING"!!
My favorite movies are with Chris Farley and old Jerry Lewis movies. I laugh until my back starts to hurt.
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shattered, lost, or squashed dreams
by SpiceItUp innot really sure what brought this on but lately i have been thinking about what i have done with my life and what i want to do with it.. as a jw we weren't really supposed to have dreams of the future unless it involved a paradise earth and immortality.
i can remember dreams of granduer in the entertainment field amongst other things.. i think it might be the fact that in a few years i will be at that *gasp* dreaded age (yeah its only 30 but its still a big deal for me) and feeling like i haven't accomplished anything with my life.
am i depressed?
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Jessica Rabbit
Thanks Spice.
I too am a member of the annoyed when people don't read fully and assume they know what they are talking about class.
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What did you miss the most while being a kid in the Borg?
by Jessica Rabbit inthe other day i was watching "charlie's angel's" (the weekly series from the '70's) on tvland.
it dawned on me how much i used to wish they had aired that show any night but thursdays.
maybe twice a year, if i was too sick to go to the meeting i would get my hour to watch my favorite star...farrah!
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Jessica Rabbit
Hamas, you make me laugh. I love all of you guys. I am having a blast with this.
I am so glad I asked the question "What did you miss the most?"All of you touched on some of my same memories. We ought to send this to Dr. Phil or somethin'. It really is sad to hear some of your responses because I can hear the emotions in your words. These experiences we had as kids are what make us the way we are today in certain situations. I swear I am still trying to figure out how to interact with "worldly" people at work. I feel so backwards sometimes. I too remember wanting to be in Choir. Oh, and to be a cheerleader. That reminds me, I had to sit in the stupid library every time there was a pep rally. God, I felt like such a nerd! Danny, I remember the feeling you described about the National Anthem. Even when I was older and at a ballgame, I wanted to crawl under my chair. And Thirdson, I used to ask the same question, "Why do we have to be different." It really messes with your head. It taught me to be arrogant around non-believers, it sure didn't teach me to be neighborly.
Traci
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Why Witnesses are Zealous - a Dark Reason.
by metatron indespite all the fakery and non-credible statistics, there is still a lot of zeal in this organization.
five meetings a week.
are demanding all by themselves.
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Jessica Rabbit
No, you are right on the money in my book. I am not ashamed to tell you I have some definite "issues". I struggle daily with a disorder that I have never had an opportunity to address. I am constantly "scaring" people away who I work with because I do live in a dreamworld. Somedays I could just swear they are out to get me or they are being nice to my face but really can't stand me. We were taught to always walk in that Hall with a smile on our faces and whether we did or didn't like someone or something, we never let it show. So much of my personality is such an "act", even now. I am 40 years old and my personality changes with the wind. My husband should be given a gold medal for putting up with all the different Tracis.